Survey: Ordering Preps for Collapse – Results: Fate of Countries in Collapse

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Published on the Doomstead Diner on Septemeber 30, 2015

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Our new Collapse Survey TM for this week is on how you should order up your preps for Collapse.

There is a lot of dispute on this topic, particularly with folks who think Gold & Silver are important Collapse Preps to have.  Theory there is that the PMs will hold their value when the fiat money collapses. So do you want to convert your current paper or digibit money into Gold if you have some savings?  How much of your pile should be held in Gold? 

Alternatively, you have many folks looking at a Mad Max scenario unfolding, so they are more partial to Steel & Lead as an investment.  AKA, Guns and Ammo.

Then you have the Back to the Land folks who feel the best investment is to buy your own piece of property and start growing your own veggies.  Except, once your Goobermint is outta biz, who exactly enforces you Property Rights to that patch of land?  If you are a Libertarian or Anarchist who wants to see Goobermint disappear, than what gives you the right to own a piece of property?

In the survey, you get $10,000 to spend on whatever preps you like, distributed out however you like.  If you're going to buy land with that, it's probably going to take at least half of it right there.

Anyhow, you can express some of your opinions on these topics in this Survey.

survey-saysNow. on to the results from last week's survey, the Fate of Countries in Collapse! πŸ™‚

Although I did include questions to rank many countries and/or regions as to their fate in collapse, mainly the survey was focused on the "Big 3", the FSoA, Russia and China.

There s a constant debate ongoing in the Collapse Blogosphere as to which of these countries will fare the best as collapse marches onward, and there is a lot of ideological spin that goes along with that analysis also.

So, here I tried to strip some of that out and just get a hard and fast global viewpoint on which will be best and worst as time goes by.

Below here are the results from this survey.

For most dead people in gross numbers, the Winner is

  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Standard Deviation Responses Weighted Average
China 19
(31.15%)
15
(24.59%)
7
(11.48%)
5
(8.2%)
2
(3.28%)
7
(11.48%)
2
(3.28%)
1
(1.64%)
5.9 61 3.18 / 11
India 12
(19.67%)
11
(18.03%)
10
(16.39%)
6
(9.84%)
7
(11.48%)
5
(8.2%)
2
(3.28%)
2
(3.28%)
3.8 61 3.97 / 11
Middle East-North Africa 3
(4.92%)
7
(11.48%)
13
(21.31%)
10
(16.39%)
5
(8.2%)
7
(11.48%)
10
(16.39%)
2
(3.28%)
3.96 61 4.74 / 11
Japan 4
(6.56%)
10
(16.39%)
2
(3.28%)
8
(13.11%)
8
(13.11%)
8
(13.11%)
6
(9.84%)
5
(8.2%)
2.81 61 5.38 / 11
USA-Canada 10
(16.39%)
3
(4.92%)
4
(6.56%)
8
(13.11%)
5
(8.2%)
3
(4.92%)
4
(6.56%)
6
(9.84%)
2.31 61 5.8 / 11
Sub-Saharan Africa 4
(6.56%)
8
(13.11%)
7
(11.48%)
4
(6.56%)
9
(14.75%)
0
(0%)
4
(6.56%)
9
(14.75%)
2.54 61 5.95 / 11
Europe 2
(3.28%)
3
(4.92%)
4
(6.56%)
6
(9.84%)
8
(13.11%)
11
(18.03%)
8
(13.11%)
8
(13.11%)
3.37 61 6.08 / 11
Southeast Asia 3
(4.92%)
3
(4.92%)
5
(8.2%)
5
(8.2%)
7
(11.48%)
7
(11.48%)
7
(11.48%)
3
(4.92%)
2.84 61 6.49 / 11
Russia 3
(4.92%)
1
(1.64%)
7
(11.48%)
4
(6.56%)
4
(6.56%)
3
(4.92%)
9
(14.75%)
11
(18.03%)
2.78 61 6.89 / 11
Central-South America 0
(0%)
0
(0%)
2
(3.28%)
2
(3.28%)
4
(6.56%)
8
(13.11%)
8
(13.11%)
9
(14.75%)
4.48 61 7.9 / 11
Australia-New Zealand 1
(1.64%)
0
(0%)
0
(0%)
3
(4.92%)
2
(3.28%)
2
(3.28%)
1
(1.64%)
5
(8.2%)
10.7 61 9.62 / 11

China!

India #2.

Since these are the two most populous countries on the planet currently, this makes perfect sense.  The Kollapsniks TM got this one right! πŸ™‚

Now going by percentage of the current population:

  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Standard Deviation Responses Weighted Average
Middle East-North Africa 14
(22.95%)
9
(14.75%)
4
(6.56%)
6
(9.84%)
3
(4.92%)
6
(9.84%)
15
(24.59%)
1
(1.64%)
4.92 61 4.28 / 11
China 7
(11.48%)
16
(26.23%)
7
(11.48%)
3
(4.92%)
10
(16.39%)
7
(11.48%)
0
(0%)
3
(4.92%)
4.31 61 4.41 / 11
India 3
(4.92%)
13
(21.31%)
6
(9.84%)
5
(8.2%)
13
(21.31%)
5
(8.2%)
5
(8.2%)
5
(8.2%)
3.85 61 4.87 / 11
Japan 6
(9.84%)
7
(11.48%)
6
(9.84%)
16
(26.23%)
5
(8.2%)
4
(6.56%)
4
(6.56%)
4
(6.56%)
3.65 61 4.9 / 11
USA-Canada 16
(26.23%)
3
(4.92%)
5
(8.2%)
3
(4.92%)
4
(6.56%)
6
(9.84%)
6
(9.84%)
5
(8.2%)
3.87 61 5.07 / 11
Europe 6
(9.84%)
2
(3.28%)
6
(9.84%)
6
(9.84%)
5
(8.2%)
14
(22.95%)
3
(4.92%)
8
(13.11%)
3.29 61 5.77 / 11
Sub-Saharan Africa 4
(6.56%)
7
(11.48%)
6
(9.84%)
6
(9.84%)
5
(8.2%)
1
(1.64%)
5
(8.2%)
20
(32.79%)
4.96 61 5.87 / 11
Russia 2
(3.28%)
3
(4.92%)
14
(22.95%)
2
(3.28%)
3
(4.92%)
4
(6.56%)
10
(16.39%)
6
(9.84%)
3.53 61 6.3 / 11
Southeast Asia 1
(1.64%)
0
(0%)
2
(3.28%)
11
(18.03%)
7
(11.48%)
3
(4.92%)
8
(13.11%)
5
(8.2%)
5.09 61 7.15 / 11
Central-South America 0
(0%)
1
(1.64%)
2
(3.28%)
1
(1.64%)
4
(6.56%)
9
(14.75%)
5
(8.2%)
4
(6.56%)
6.16 61 7.92 / 11
Australia-New Zealand 2
(3.28%)
0
(0%)
3
(4.92%)
2
(3.28%)
2
(3.28%)
2
(3.28%)
0
(0%)
0
(0%)
11.62 61 9.48 / 11

In this case, MENA got the nod for most dead people by percentage of population, which I also would generally agree with considering so much of it is already DESERT.  However, I would have ranked both Japan and sub-Saharan Africa higher.

Now the "Big 3" questions, comparing the fate of the FSoA, China & Russia in the post-collapse world:

Which one does best?

  USA China Russia Standard Deviation Responses
All Data 19
(31.15%)
11
(18.03%)
31
(50.82%)
8.22 61

The Ruskies win this one hands down.  Most Kollapsniks believe that since Mother Russia has already experienced collapse, they're more resilient.  Also, they like the people/land ration and the resources.

Here's Text Responses:

Strict. Authoritarian. Tight control. Strong military. Organizational capability and enforcement.
Our words are backed by working nuclear weapons.
Technology, temperate lands with a relatively large amount of resources, mid-large population, science.
abundance of natural resouces, people/land ratio
 

Where would most Kollapsniks prefer to be living post-collapse?

  USA China Russia Standard Deviation Responses
All Data 47
(77.05%)
2
(3.28%)
12
(19.67%)
19.29 61

Despite most Kollapsniks believing Mother Russia will do better, they still would rather be here in the good old FSoA.  This also is not surprising given the demographic of Kollapsniks is about 50% Amerikan and most folks want to stay where they are comfortable, know the language and fit in culturally.

Here's text responses on this one:

As a country, the United States may still be able to hold things together. Even if not, the social and cultural landscape is most familiar.
I speak English
The other two have a funny history when it comes to instability and killing people.

Finally, which country is likely to experience Political Upheaval and Revolution first?

  USA China Russia Standard Deviation Responses
All Data 26
(42.62%)
27
(44.26%)
8
(13.11%)
8.73 61

This is almost a dead even race between China and the FSoA, with Mother Russia coming in a distant 3rd.  Not sure why Kollapsniks think the Ruskie Goobermint is so stable though.

For myself, I will take a Middle Ground here (not available on the Survey) and stay in Alaska, but have it Repoed by Mother Russia. πŸ™‚

OK, now get to it and take the new Ordering Preps for Collapse survey!

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