Survey: When Does the Dieoff Begin? Results: Most Dangerous to World Peace

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Published on the Doomstead Diner on August , 2015

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According to the UN, by 2050 the Global Population of Homo Saps is projected to be around 11B by 2100:

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Obviously, they arrive at these numbers by extrapolating out on current trends.  Nowhere do they explain how we'll be able to feed 11B, particularly since climate change and fresh water depletion are both already negatively affecting many of the growing regions around the globe.  Nor does it take into account fossil fuel depletion, phosphate depletion etc.

So, equally obvious to anyone who actually THINKS about this and doesn't simply extrapolate out the current trends, somewhere in the next 80 years the population is going to stop going UP, and start going DOWN.

As with the rest of the questions surrounding collapse, the outcome isn't in question here, just the timeline on it.  When will the population begin its inexorable downward slide?  Once this slide does begin, how fast will the population diminish?  These are the questions for this week's Collapse SurveyTM.

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World Peace Danger Survey Results

survey-saysNow the results from last week's survey,  Which Nation or Organization presents the Greatest Danger to World Peace?

Unsurprisingly given the demographics of Doomers, coming mostly from English speaking industrialized nations, ISIS got the nod as the greatest danger.  However, as of yet, ISIS doesn't possess any Nuclear Weapons, so the amount of damage they can actually do is fairly limited.  What they might do of course is become such a nuisance to frustrated neo-cons over here that someone on this side of the pond or the Israelis pushes the button to try to exterminate them en masse.

The FSoA came in as # 2 on the list of Greatest Dangers, although I really think you can make the case it should be #1 because in fact ISIS itself is a creation of the Imperial Foreign Policy of the last Century, going back to before WWI and the destruction of the old Ottoman Empire.  Plus of course as mentioned the huge Nuclear Arsenal wielded by the FSoA and the potential for electing Trigger Happy Idiots like Donald Trump as POTUS..  This combination of factors makes the FSoA a great danger indeed.

Coming in at #3 is Israel, and again you could make the case that Israel is more dangerous than ISIS since they do have Nukes, they are already being managed by a trigger happy nincompoop in Nitwityahoo, and they are surrounded by enemies who want them dead and gone yesterday.  If ISIS makes significant headway and gets hold of some Ruskie missiles with conventional warheads to start lobbing into Tel-Aviv and Jerusalem, will the Israelis stick to retaliating with just conventional weapons?  Maybe for a while, but if they are losing, eventually somebody over there will push the button on the Nukes.

On the other end of the spectrum,  putting Pakistan and India dead last depite the fact they BOTH have Nukes and there is a  constant dispute between the two on the India-Pakistan border seems to me to make them both a higher ranking threat to World Peace than say Boko Haram.  However, conflicts between India & Pakistan aren't well reported in the West, so there isn't the same kind of perception of danger that there is from Terrorist groups and the focus of a "War on Terror" constantly being pursued to keep those defense contractors rolling in dough.

Below, the full survey results for Most Dangerous to World Peace:

FULL WORLD PEACE SURVEY RESULTS:

  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Standard Deviation Responses Weighted Average
ISIS 19
(32.2%)
10
(16.95%)
2
(3.39%)
10
(16.95%)
7
(11.86%)
2
(3.39%)
1
(1.69%)
1
(1.69%)
5.3 59 3.8 / 13
USA 17
(28.81%)
8
(13.56%)
7
(11.86%)
0
(0%)
5
(8.47%)
0
(0%)
2
(3.39%)
5
(8.47%)
4.67 59 5.25 / 13
Israel 2
(3.39%)
3
(5.08%)
12
(20.34%)
2
(3.39%)
5
(8.47%)
9
(15.25%)
9
(15.25%)
2
(3.39%)
3.39 59 6.15 / 13
North Korea 1
(1.69%)
1
(1.69%)
9
(15.25%)
9
(15.25%)
8
(13.56%)
4
(6.78%)
6
(10.17%)
6
(10.17%)
2.87 59 6.41 / 13
Russia 5
(8.47%)
2
(3.39%)
11
(18.64%)
7
(11.86%)
1
(1.69%)
5
(8.47%)
2
(3.39%)
3
(5.08%)
2.71 59 6.58 / 13
NATO 7
(11.86%)
11
(18.64%)
5
(8.47%)
7
(11.86%)
2
(3.39%)
1
(1.69%)
1
(1.69%)
0
(0%)
4.22 59 6.83 / 13
China 1
(1.69%)
6
(10.17%)
3
(5.08%)
4
(6.78%)
10
(16.95%)
4
(6.78%)
3
(5.08%)
6
(10.17%)
2.73 59 6.85 / 13
Saudi Arabia 3
(5.08%)
1
(1.69%)
1
(1.69%)
6
(10.17%)
7
(11.86%)
6
(10.17%)
3
(5.08%)
9
(15.25%)
3.03 59 7.27 / 13
Hezbollah 0
(0%)
1
(1.69%)
7
(11.86%)
6
(10.17%)
3
(5.08%)
10
(16.95%)
3
(5.08%)
5
(8.47%)
3.13 59 7.69 / 13
Boko Haram 1
(1.69%)
12
(20.34%)
0
(0%)
2
(3.39%)
1
(1.69%)
5
(8.47%)
1
(1.69%)
5
(8.47%)
3.9 59 7.78 / 13
Pakistan 0
(0%)
3
(5.08%)
2
(3.39%)
3
(5.08%)
5
(8.47%)
3
(5.08%)
13
(22.03%)
7
(11.86%)
3.2 59 7.8 / 13
Iran 3
(5.08%)
1
(1.69%)
0
(0%)
3
(5.08%)
4
(6.78%)
4
(6.78%)
13
(22.03%)
7
(11.86%)
3.23 59 8.03 / 13
India 0
(0%)
0
(0%)
0
(0%)
0
(0%)
1
(1.69%)
6
(10.17%)
2
(3.39%)
3
(5.08%)
4.91 59 10.56 / 13

 

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